看了8遍 什么样的电影和什么样的书需要这样细细去品味 当然是很有深度的才值得付出这么多宝贵的时间 周国平说过 一本浅薄的书,往往只要翻几页就可以察知它的浅薄。
一本深刻的书,却多半要在仔细读完了以后才能领会它的深刻。
我同意一部平庸的电影,往往只要几秒画面就可以断定它的平庸。
一个伟大的电影,却多半要在仔细观看了以后才能确信他的伟大。
每次看这部电影都有心的想法和体验 这部电影成了硬盘里面为数不多的重点收藏对象 我没有把这部电影当作一个完整来看 一开始就知道导演想借这种迷幻的手法 来讲述哲学政治人性社会法律等抽象的内容 故事只是串联破碎情节的导线而已 用一种诙谐的手法表现出来 看似很简短的内容对白 其实体现了导演思想境界非常宏大 当中出现的内容无无一不是和生命生活有关的 当第一次出现在电影表现枯燥的哲学时候 很难表达的文字 被视觉奇妙的表现出来融合在人们半真实的状态中 其实人本身除开在睡梦中 就算在白天也经常也会精神恍惚 分不清自身的状态 你能分得清什么是现实吗 作为一部小众电影 导演根本没有指望更多人能看懂 也没有想表现什么故事而是在表达他对世界的一种观点 对人生哲学的一种研究 文学哲学不感冒的人基本很难理解导演表达的观点 没有多少人愿意静下心来看没有故事没有情节的电影 我在想 这是一种强烈的文化差异中国电影包括中国人都又极大区别的电影 中国电影表达更多的是社会底层或者高层文化社会现象 或者是某一时段的政治历史回忆 都是都讲叙一种群体生活的状态色彩 而西方电影在独立思想和个人内在的一种意识审视 常常可以看到大段大段的心理分析独白是很以自我世界为中心的一中人生哲学态度 偶尔鲜见的东方电影是用景风景色彩人物造型来映射暗喻一种哲学观点 这种模糊的东方哲学就如东方人的性格一样内向诡异 而西方哲学更像是生活层面的分析推理 强劲的逻辑思维引导着社会和个人的独立意识来审视这个世界 怎样纯抽象的东西在电影中表现出来 这部电影做到了人生看似可以从来 其实是不可以的 只是我们看到故事太多 期待的太多于是 我们就选择了电影
船车司机So what do you think of my little vessel? She's what we call "see-worthy." S-E-E. See with your eyesI feel like my transport should be an extension of my personality. Voila. And this? This is like my little window to the world, and every minute, it's a different show.Now, I may not understand it. I may not even necessarily agree with it. But I'll tell you what, I accept it and just sort of glide along.You want to keep things on an even keel I guess is what I'm saying.You want to go with the flow. The sea refuses no river.The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving.Saves on introductions and good-byes.The ride does not require an explanation.Just occupants. That's where you guys come in.It's like you come onto this planet with a crayon box.Now, you may get the 8 pack, you may get the 16 pack.But it's all in what you do with the crayons,the colors that you're given.Don't worry about drawing within the lines or coloring outside the lines.I say color outside the lines. Color right off the page.Don't box me in. We're in motion to the ocean.We are not landlocked, I'll tell ya that.
存在主义The reason why I refuse to take existentialism as just another French fashion or historical curiosity is that I think it has something very important to offer us for the new century.I 'm afraid we're losing the real virtues of living life passionately,the sense of taking responsibility for who you are,the ability to make something of yourself and feeling good about life.Existentialism is often discussed as if it's a philosophy of despair.But I think the truth is just the opposite.Sartre once interviewed said he never really felt a day of despair in his life.But one thing that comes out from reading these guys is not a sense of anguish about life so much as a real kind of exuberance of feeling on top of it.It's like your life is yours to create.I've read the post modernists with some interest, even admiration.But when I read them, I always have this awful nagging feelingthat something absolutely essential is getting left out.The more that you talk about a person as a social constructionor as a confluence of forces or as fragmented or marginalized,what you do is you open up a whole new world of excuses.And when Sartre talks about responsibility,he's not talking about something abstract.He's not talking about the kind of self or soul that theologians would argue about.It's something very concrete. It's you and me talking.Making decisions. Doing things and taking the consequences.It might be true that there are six billion people in the world and counting.Nevertheless, what you do makes a difference.It makes a difference, first of all, in material terms.Makes a difference to other people and it sets an example.In short, I think the message here is that we should never simply write ourselves off and see ourselves as the victim of various forces.It's always our decision who we are.
语言、感受与精神交流Creation seems to come out of imperfection.It seems to come out of a striving and a frustration.And this is where I think language came from.I mean, it came from our desire to transcend our isolation and have some sort of connection with one another.And it had to be easy when it was just simple survival.Like, you know, "water." We came up with a sound for that.Or, "Saber-toothed tiger right behind you." We came up with a sound for that.But when it gets really interesting, I think,is when we use that same system of symbols to communicate all the abstract and intangible things that we're experiencing.What is, like, frustration? Or what is anger or love?When I say "love,"the sound comes out of my mouth and it hits the other person's ear,travels through this Byzantine conduit in their brain,you know, through their memories of love or lack of love,and they register what I'm saying and say yes, they understand.But how do I know they understand? Because words are inert.They're just symbols. They're dead, you know?And so much of our experience is intangible.So much of what we perceive cannot be expressed. It's unspeakable.And yet, you know, when we communicate with one another,and we feel that we have connected,and we think that we're understood, I think we have a feeling of almost spiritual communion.And that feeling might be transient, but I think it's what we live for.
进化If we are looking at the highlights of human development,you have to look at the evolution of the organism and then at the development of its interaction with the environment.Evolution of the organism will begin with the evolution of lifeperceived through the hominid coming to the evolution of mankind.Neanderthal, Cro-Magnon man.Now, interestingly, what you are looking at here are three strings:biological, anthropological, development of the cities, cultures and cultural, which is human expression.Now, what you are seen here is the evolution of populations,not so much the evolution of individuals.And in addition, if you look at the time scales that's involved here two billion years for life,six million years for the hominid,100,000 years for mankind as we know it, you're beginning to see the telescoping nature of the evolutionary paradigm.And then when you get to agricultural, when you get to scientific revolution and industrial revolution, you're looking at 10,000 years, 400 years, 150 years.You're seeing a further telescoping of this evolutionary time.What that means is that as we go through the new evolution,it's gonna telescope to the point we should be able to see it manifest itself within our lifetime, within this generation.The new evolution stems from information, and it stems from two types of information: digital and analog.The digital is artificial intelligence.The analog results from molecular biology, the cloning of the organism.And you knit the two together with neurobiology.Before on the old evolutionary paradigm, one would die and the other would grow and dominate.But under the new paradigm, they would exist as a mutually supportive, noncompetitive grouping.Okay, independent from the external.And what is interesting here is that evolution now becomes an individually centered process,emanating from the needs and the desires of the individual,and not an external process, a passive process where the individual is just at the whim of the collective.So, you produce a neo-human with a new individuality and a new consciousness.But that's only the beginning of the evolutionary cycle, because as the next cycle proceeds, the input is now this new intelligence.As intelligence piles on intelligence, as ability piles on ability, the speed changes.Until what? Until you reach a crescendo in a way could be imagined as an enormous instantaneous fulfillment of human, human and neo-human potential.It could be something totally different.It could be the amplification of the individual,the multiplication of individual existences.Parallel existences now with the individual no longer restricted by time and space.And the manifestations of this neo-human-type evolution, manifestations could be dramatically counter-intuitive.That's the interesting part. The old evolution is cold.It's sterile. It's efficient, okay?And its manifestations are those social adaptations.You're talking about parasitism, dominance, morality, okay?Uh, war, predation, these would be subject to de-emphasis.These would be subject to de-evolution.The new evolutionary paradigm will give us the human traits of truth, of loyalty, of justice, of freedom.These will be the manifestations of the new evolution.That is what we would hope to see from this. That would be nice.
自燃者A self-destructive man feels completely alienated, utterly alone.He's an outsider to the human community.He thinks to himself, "I must be insane."What he fails to realize is that society has, just as he does,a vested interest in considerable losses and catastrophes.These wars, famines, floods and quakes meet well-defined needs.Man wants chaos.In fact, he's gotta have it.Depression, strife, riots, murder, all this dread.We're irresistibly drawn to that almost orgiastic state created out of death and destruction.It's in all of us. We revel in it.Sure, the media tries to put a sad face on these things, painting them up as great human tragedies.But we all know the function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world, no.Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them.The powers that be want us to be passive observers.Hey, you got a match?And they haven't given us any other options outside the occasional, purely symbolic,participatory act of voting.You want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left?I feel that the time has come to project my own inadequacies and dissatisfactions into the sociopolitical and scientific schemes.Let my own lack of a voice be heard.
死后的6-12minI keep thinking about something you said.- Something I said? - Yeah.About how you often feel like you're observing your life from the perspective of an old woman about to die.- You remember that?- Yeah. I still feel that way sometimes.Like I'm looking back on my life.Like my waking life is her memories.Exactly.I heard that Tim Leary said as he was dying that he was looking forward to the moment when his body was dead, but his brain was still alive.They say that there's still 6 to 12 minutes of brain activity after everything is shut down.And a second of dream consciousness, right, well, that's infinitely longer than a waking second.- You know what I'm saying?- Oh, yeah, definitely.For example, I wake up and it's 10:12, and then I go back to sleep and I have those long, intricate,beautiful dreams that seem to last for hours, and then I wake up and it's 10:13.Exactly. So then 6 to 1 2 minutes of brain activity,I mean, that could be your whole life.I mean, you are that woman looking back over everything.Okay, so what if I am? Then what would you be in all that?Whatever I am right now.I mean, yeah, maybe I only exist in your mind.I'm still just as real as anything else.Yeah.
灵魂转世- I've been thinking also about something you said.- What's that?Just about reincarnation and where all the new souls come from over time.Everybody always say that they've been the reincarnationof Cleopatra or Alexander the Great.I always want to tell them they were probably some dumb fuck like everybody else.I mean, it's impossible. Think about it.The world population has doubled in the past 40 years, right?- So if you really believe in that ego thing of one eternal soul,then you only have a 50% chance of your soul being over 40.And for it to be over 150 years old, then it's only one out of six.So what are you saying then? Reincarnation doesn't exist or that we're all young souls like where half of us are first-round humans?No, no. What I'm trying to say is that somehow I believe reincarnation is just a poetic expression of what collective memory really is.There was this article by this biochemist that I read not long ago, and he was talking about how when a member of a species is born, it has a billion years of memory to draw on.And this is where we inherit our instincts.I like that. It's like there's, um,this whole telepathic thing going on that we are all a part of,whether we are conscious of it or not.That would explain why there's all these, you know, seemingly spontaneous, worldwide, innovative leaps in science, in the arts.You know, like the same results poppin' up everywhere independent of each other.Some guy on a computer, he figures something out, and then almost simultaneously, a bunch of other people all over the world figure out the same thing. They did this study. They isolated a group of people over time, and they monitored their abilities at crossword puzzles in relation to the general population.And then they secretly gave them a day-old crossword, one that had already been answered by thousands of other people.Their scores went up dramatically, like 20 percent.So it's like once the answers are out there, you know, people can pick up on them.It's like we're all telepathically sharing our experiences.
囚犯I'll get you motherfuckers if it's the last thing I do.Oh, you're gonna pay for what you did to me.For every second I spend in this hellhole, I'll see you spend a year in living hell!Oh, you fucks are gonna beg me to let you die.No, no, not yet.I want you cocksuckers to suffer.Oh, I'll fix your fuckin' asses, all right.Maybe a long needle in your eardrum.A hot cigar in your eye.Nothing fancy.Some molten lead up the ass.Ooh!Or better still, some of that old Apache shit.Cut your eyelids off. Yeah.I'll just listen to you fucks screaming.Oh, what sweet music that'll be.Yeah. We'll do it in the hospital.With doctors and nurses so you pricks don't die on me too quick.You know the best part?The best part is you dick-smoking faggots will have your eyelids cut off,so you'll have to watch me do it to you, yeah.You'll see me bring that cigar closer and closer to your wide-open eyeball till you're almost out of your mind.But not quite,cause I want it to last a long, long time.I want you to know that it's me,that I'm the one that's doing it to you.Me!And that sissy psychiatrist?What unmitigated ignorance!That old drunken fart of a judge!What a pompous ass!Judge not, lest ye be judged!All of you pukes are gonna die the day I get out of this shithole!I guarantee you'll regret the day you met me!
科学之后,如何自由In a way, in our contemporary world view, it's easy to think that science has come to take the place of God.But some philosophical problems remain as troubling as ever.Take the problem of free will.This problem's been around for a long time, since before Aristotle in 350 B.C. St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, these guys all worried about how we can be free if God already knows in advance everything you're gonna do.Nowadays we know that the world operates according to some fundamental physical laws,and these laws govern the behavior of every object in the world.Now, these laws, because they're so trustworthy, they enable incredible technological achievements.But look at yourself. We're just physical systems too.We're just complex arrangements of carbon molecules.We're mostly water, and our behavior isn't gonna be an exception to basic physical laws.So it starts to look like whether it's God setting things up in advance and knowing everything you're gonna do, or whether it's these basic physical laws governing everything.There's not a lot of room left for freedom.So now you might be tempted to just ignore the question, ignore the mystery of free will.Say, "Oh, well, it's just an historical anecdote. It's sophomoric.It's a question with no answer. Just forget about it."But the question keeps staring you right in the face.You think about individuality, for example, who you are.Who you are is mostly a matter of the free choices that you make.Or take responsibility. You can only be held responsible, you can only be found guilty or admired or respected for things you did of your own free will.The question keeps coming back, and we don't really have a solution to it.It starts to look like all your decisions are really just a charade.Think about how it happens. There's some electrical activity in your brain.Your neurons fire. They send a signal down into your nervous system.It passes along down into your muscle fibers.They twitch. You might, say, reach out your arm.Looks like it's a free action on your part,but every one of those- every part of that process is actually governed by physical law:chemical laws, electrical laws and so on.So now it just looks like the Big Bang set up the initial conditions, and the whole rest of our history, the whole rest of human history and even before,is really just sort of the playing out of subatomic particles, according to these basic fundamental physical laws.We think we are special. We think we have some kind of special dignity,but that now comes under threat.I mean, that's really challenged by this picture.So you might be saying, "Well, wait a minute. What about quantum mechanics?"I know enough contemporary physical theory to know it's not really like that."It's really a probabilistic theory.There's room. It's loose. It's not deterministic."And that's gonna enable us to understand free will.But if you look at the details, it's not really gonna help, because what happens is you have some very small quantum particles, and their behavior is apparently a bit random.They swerve. Their behavior is absurd in the sense that it's unpredictable, and we can't understand it based on anything that came before.It just does something out of the blue, according to a probabilistic framework.But is that gonna help with freedom?Should our freedom just be a matter of probabilities, just some random swerving in a chaotic system?That just seems like it's worse. I'd rather be a gear in a big deterministic, physical machine than just some random swerving.So we can't just ignore the problem.We have to find room in our contemporary world view for persons,with all that that it entails; not just bodies, but persons.And that means trying to solve the problem of freedom, finding room for choice and responsibility and trying to understand individuality.
反抗者You can't fight city hall, death and taxes.Don't talk about politics or religion.This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line." Lay down, G.I. Lay down, G.I."We saw it all through the 20th Century.And now in the 21st Century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze.We should not submit to dehumanization.I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world.I'm concerned with the structure.I'm concerned with the systems of control, those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more!I want freedom! That's what I want!And that's what you should want!It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose and just shovel the greed, the hatred, the envy and, yes, the insecurities, because that is the central mode of control-- make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale.Start challenging this corporate slave state!The 21st Century is gonna be a new century, not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues of no significance and classism and statism and all the rest of the modes of control!It's gonna be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and something right!What a bunch of garbage-- liberal Democrat, conservative Republican.It's all there to control you. Two sides of the same coin.Two management teams bidding for control!The C.E.O. job of Slavery, Incorporated!The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies!I'm sick of it, and I'm not gonna take a bite out of it! Do you got me?Resistance is not futile. We're gonna win this thing.Humankind is too good! We're not a bunch of underachievers!We're gonna stand up and we're gonna be human beings!We're gonna get fired up about the real things, the things that matter: creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit!Well, that's it! That's all I got to say! It's in your court.
The quest is to be liberated from the negative, which is really our own will to nothingness.And once having said yes to the instant, the affirmation is contagious.It bursts into a chain of affirmations that knows no limit.To say yes to one instant is to say yes to all of existence.
mindThe main character is what you might call "the mind." It's mastery, it's capacity to represent. Throughout history, attempts have been made to contain those experiences which happen at the edge of the limit where the mind is vulnerable. But I think we are in a very significant moment in history. Those moments, those what you might call liminal, limit, frontier, edge zone experiences are actually now becoming the norm. These multiplicities and distinctions and differences that have given great difficulty to the old mind are actually through entering into their very essence, tasting and feeling their uniqueness. One might make a breakthrough to that common something that holds them together. And so the main character is, to this new mind, greater, greater mind. A mind that yet is to be. And when we are obviously entered into that mode, you can see a radical subjectivity, radical attunement to individuality, uniqueness to that which the mind is, opens itself to a vast objectivity. So the story is the story of the cosmos now. The moment is not just a passing, empty nothing yet. And this is in the way in which these secret passages happen. Yes, it's empty with such fullness that the great moment, the great life of the universe is pulsating in it. And each one, each object, each place, each act leaves a mark. And that story is singular. But, in fact, it's story after story.
Time just dissolves into quick-moving particles that are swirling away. Either I'm moving fast or time is. Never both simultaneously.
It's such a strange paradox. I mean, while, technically, I 'm closer to the end of my life than I've ever been, I actually feel more than ever that I have all the time in the world.When I was younger, there was a desperation, a desire for certainty, like there was an end to the path, and I had to get there.I know what you mean because I can remember thinking,"Oh, someday, like in my mid-thirties maybe, everything's going to just somehow jell and settle, just end."It was like there was this plateau, and it was waiting for me, and I was climbing up it, and when I got to the top, all growth and change would stop.Even exhilaration. But that hasn't happened like that, thank goodness.I think that what we don't take into account when we are young is our endless curiosity.That's what's so great about being human.- You know that thing Benedict Anderson says about identity?- No.Well, he's talking about like, say, a baby picture.So you pick up this picture, this two-dimensional image, and you say, "That's me."Well, to connect this baby in this weird little image with yourself living and breathing in the present, you have to make up a story like, "This was me when I was a year old, and later I had long hair, and then we moved to Riverdale, and now here I am."So it takes a story that's actually a fiction to make you and the baby in the picture identical to create your identity.And the funny thing is, our cells are completely regenerating every seven years.We've already become completely different people several times over,and yet we always remain quintessentially ourselves.
Our critique began as all critiques begin:with doubt.Doubt became our narrative. Ours was a quest for a new story, our own.And we grasp toward this new history driven by the suspicion that ordinary language couldn't tell it. Our past appeared frozen in the distance, and our every gesture and accent signified the negation of the old world and the reach for a new one. The way we lived created a new situation, one of exuberance and friendship, that of a subversive microsociety in the heart of a society which ignored it. Art was not the goal but the occasion and the method for locating our specific rhythm and buried possibilities of our time. The discovery of a true communication was what it was about, or at least the quest for such a communication. The adventure of finding it and losing it. We the unappeased, the unaccepting continued looking, filling in the silences with our own wishes, fears and fantasies. Driven forward by the fact that no matter how empty the world seemed, no matter how degraded and used up the world appeared to us, we knew that anything was still possible. And, given the right circumstances, a new world was just as likely as an old one.
There are two kinds of sufferers in this world: those who suffer from a lack of life and those who suffer from an overabundance of life. I've always found myself in the second category. When you come to think of it, almost all human behavior and activity is not essentially any different from animal behavior. The most advanced technologies and craftsmanship bring us, at best, up to the super-chimpanzee level. Actually, the gap between, say, Plato or Nietzsche and the average human is greater than the gap between that chimpanzee and the average human. The realm of the real spirit, the true artist, the saint, the philosopher, is rarely achieved. Why so few? Why is world history and evolution not stories of progress, but rather this endless and futile addition of zeroes? No greater values have developed. Hell, the Greeks 3,000 years ago were just as advanced as we are. So what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? The answer to that can be found in another question, and that's this: Which is the most universal human characteristic - fear or laziness? What are you writing? A novel. What's the story? There's no story. It's just people, gestures, moments, bits of rapture, fleeting emotions.
电影很有趣关于社会的人类的人性的哲学思考的语言流尽管内容平庸,和男主身处其中的梦一样有水的流动质感。
我想这个电影并不是想借以梦的形式传达严肃的哲学思考,反而是脱出理性思辨的限制后,语言的无意识特性,片中大段大段对话语法正确,风格流畅,但是细纠就会发现其实这些话架空于事实和逻辑上,语言的内容与正在发生的事情之间产生互文,互为所指,就像两滴颜料融合在水中。
关于这一点,最明显的是男主在电影院看电影的一段。
电影的内容是两个人在讨论电影,电影的神圣性瞬间,有点像两个说相声的人,一个逗哏一个捧哏,逗哏的人不断将对话引向电影的叙事性,瞬间的神圣,而在他的语言之下,两个人所构成的电影画面正好成为非常恰当的说明,最后两个人在镜头前表演了这一神圣瞬间,语言与画面融合为一。
通篇男主遇到的所有人,听到和说出的所有语言,发生的所有事件都具有梦的这一不受理性控制的现实结构之下的超现实性,在每一个微妙不引起注意的地方形成断裂和超越的逻辑结构。
由此产生的梦境内容虚假与现实性的交互其实也可以类推到电影剧本写作中,即情节超越于故事框架而与写作行为或者拍摄的创作行为本身发生关系。
<超市夜未眠>里男主角一直睡不着,现在想来是多么痛苦的一件事情.我本身不是个很嗜睡的人,但是却很庆幸上帝给了我们做梦的权利.我们的梦大多在前半夜,而只有后半夜的梦我们醒来才会记得. 我有几次梦到梦里还在做梦,努力从梦中醒来,暗自庆幸还好那只是个梦,殊不知,其实我还在梦中.等到早晨醒来吓出一身冷汗,就象片中的男主角去拨弄那个开关而灯却没有灭.梦这种事情太私密太个人,听完基本上完全接不上话,说的人可以激情四溢,听的人却很难身临其境.所以没有几个人愿意听别人讲梦.导演用很精明的手段滔滔不决的硬把梦讲给我们听:人物作成曲线的水彩效果,小提琴大提琴钢琴吉他背景音乐的恰到好处,不时穿插出动画的黑色幽默... 没有台词的片子很考导演功力.大段大段台词的片子,更考导演功力,比如这片子,比如<这个男人来自地球>,投资小,场景简单,却有意外惊喜.我承认:1,我好奇心很重;2,我爱搅脑子.所以基本这片挺对我胃口.有的片子不能也不会只看一遍,希望我看第二遍,第三遍...时,会更享受.再次呜谢才女同学.
无目的的行走,随机事件,陌生人没完没了的对话,水彩动画效果,没有剧情没有冲突,比梦境更虚幻。
如果你喜欢大卫林奇也许你会喜欢它,尽管差别巨大。。。
如果你喜欢ANMIATRIX你会喜欢它,尽管主题不同。。。
平淡但不是白开水而是脑力劳动。
不会再有类似的电影出现啦,俺想。
青年学生维利•维金斯(Wiley Wiggins 饰)童年时曾从小伙伴那里得到这样一个预言:“梦即命运”。
长大后,他在恍恍惚惚间来到了一座陌生的城市。
维利走街串巷,经历各种各样的神奇体验,仿佛穿梭于不同的梦中。
在此期间,他还遇到了各色人等:从开着船形汽车的司机到大学教授,从性感的金发美女到癫狂的眼睛男,从引火自焚的金发男子再到留着雷鬼头的四人团体……每个人都喋喋不休,谈论着人生、理想和哲学。
而维利不发一言,俨然一个极具耐心的聆听者。
本片由导演兼编剧理查德•林克莱特(Richard Linklater)采用DV真人拍摄,并用软件将其“动画化”。
导演史蒂文•索德伯格(Steven Soderbergh)亦在片中出现。
你有没有过这种感觉,好象做梦永远都不会醒。
永远分不清楚现实和梦境的区别。
总是从一个梦境中醒来,然后发现自己进入另一个梦中,永无休止。
梦中的一切似乎都异常熟悉,但却不是那样清晰,即便你睁大眼睛……如果你有过这样的体验(梦中梦),推荐去看《WAKING LIFE》,不过要有心理准备 因为这电影基本就没有剧情,一个人在梦境中醒来,听不同的人说话,然后醒了,发现仍然是一个梦,再不断的和别人说话。
而且说的东西实在是难懂 而且是一句接着一句 就算看着那中文字幕 也会觉得难以理解 比如存在主义,尼采的自我本我超我,进化论,心理学,语言学,佛教的转世,鲍德里亚的虚拟与仿真,后现代主义,“神圣”意味的电影语言,自由主义,梦与死亡……片中的一些比较有印象的片段 一个司机关于自由的感言、一个自杀者关于自杀的言论、一个坐监黑人的凶狠诅咒、一个无政府主义愤青言辞激进的演讲、一段关于导演Steven Soderbergh的电视访谈、四个年轻人关于现实的抱怨、一个发生在加油站和酒吧的奇怪故事,一只猩猩的演说,两位电影人关于电影本质的探讨,两位成功女士关于自我的闲谈,许多人关于梦的解说……总之男主角就是从一个又一个的梦境中醒来,每次醒来都会开始一段全新的谈话,有时候是交谈,有时候只是聆听,有时候甚至更像是目击着整件事情,但这些遭遇在海量的谈话信息中已经显得不再重要了,当现实与梦境已经无法分辨的时候这二者都失去了意义不知道如何评说此作 但有一点是确定的 我是经历了一个漫长的旅程 也得到许多信息(即使那只占了作品中海量谈话信息的10%) 真的好象在梦境中游走 但却不是毫无意义的 虽然无法得到明确的答案 就象片中的主角到最后都没有能够从梦中醒来 然而确实他已经不在害怕 彷徨和迷茫 ……===================== 部分文字转自互联网
前言-预言(童年,种下的因,梦和现实的界限开始模糊)前言-愿望(流星、愿望、超越平常体验的来自更大世界的不可逆的引力)第一个梦-少年第一个梦-旅途、列车上朦胧听到的音乐(被拉上了一轨列车,困惑的开始,脱离母体带来的不安全感,单向性的时间,自身的成长,少年。
音乐是时间的具象,是人类对于时间最直观的感觉,某种创造随着低沉的古典乐一起走到终结,或开始了)第一个梦-排练(梦是现实的演练,还是现实是梦的演练?
戏剧感的爵士音乐,“do a bit slightly out of tune”)第一个梦-现实(你到站了,被抛向彼处,毫无经验但有一些好奇,电话线仿佛脐带,联通了你和你当地的朋友,一个黑色眼影的姑娘穿着一身黑,坐在画面正中央,宛如命运女神,你回避了如此强烈的眼神,就像自己的秘密被看穿了。
莫名其妙被好心人劝上车,但他开始像你倾售价值观:“少说些套话,行程是不需要旁白的”,而他做的恰好相反,呱啦呱啦说个不停都是些肤浅表面的东西,急于表明自身立场显得“独特”,就像他的车,就像大众传媒,虽然不会放过任何宣传自己的机会,但他懦弱伪善不敢做出任何实质有帮助的行为,一个一直沉默的乘客决定了你该下车了,“3streets 2blocks 1corner”,321,你该滚了。
也许只是让司机闭嘴,去哪?
他不会关心,就像一个只关心自己利益的政客。
【事实上,导演不仅把自己演进了电影,还把电影本身演了进去,Linklater 饰演的乘客就是导演,这整个难以醒来的梦的导演,演员(也就是观众,我们大家都是那个青涩的小伙子)是自愿参与的,只要你还在看,你就无法醒过来。
】第一个梦-命运(朦胧长大的青年的你,遭受现实重击。
没有方向不会独立思考的那个“你”,死了,而且死的很没有尊严)=================================================第二个梦-梦(新灵魂吸取了教训,你来到了大学学习知识)第二个自己-存在与责任(存在和责任都是物质层面的,都应该是实实在在的东西而不是概念,都应该被施行而不是做脑力体操。
“做出选择,承担责任”,不要怨天尤人,“不要把自己看成众多因素的牺牲品”【体制、种族、父母、性别等等】,生活要靠自己去创造,这是你的责任,了解这一切也是青年的你的责任。
)第二个自己-创造、语言与感受(“创造来源于不完美”,语言可能起源于超越自我,想要与他人建立联系的欲望,重点不是单词的发音或拼写,这种符号系统,或者更深入一些,是“让不同的人达到同感”,仅仅物质上的满足是不够的,人类还渴望着被理解,还渴望着超越,你又对自身多了一层认识)第二个自己-过场(主人公进入教室、敲门拜访、穿行不息得追逐着知识和不同的见解,学习着概念,积累着,他的眼神不再是迷惑着,变得在消化在思索,他开始有点小小的自信)第二个自己-新人类(在过去,进化是“群体性”的、为了“生存”的、“竞争”的、“被动”的,而现在呢,我们可以观察到,进化的速度越来越快,爆炸性不可预测的方向,也越来越偏向个体自发的需求,在此形成的新人类又成为新的进化螺旋的开始,直至到达某种顶峰,甚至可能改写当下视为公理的规则,也将赋予我们更良好的品格。
有些理想化,但谁知道未来呢?
)第二个自己-回到住所(构建出了一座属于自己的房子,重新获得了安全感,音乐响起,个人认知上了一个崭新的层次,超越了从前的自我,你现在不局限于你个人的体验了,可你还不知道即将面对的是什么)=================================================第三个自己-禁忌和死亡(飞翔只能持续一会儿,最终我们回到现实,触及到了不可避免的禁忌,一个老大哥开始唠叨一些过去你能感觉到却没有能力表达的“社会黑暗面”,死亡、国难财、财阀政治等等,这些似乎无法改变的事实,这些被固定的未来,就像即将来到的老大哥的死一样压在你的心头,老大哥践行了自己的反抗,他走了,但给社会给你都留下了一个问题。
你不再是从前的自己,你发现自己的命运与他人息息相关,你已经是社会人了)第三个自己-超验、共同遗产和本能(音乐响起,一对青年男女在性事完毕后,也许回忆起了高潮时那种世界大同的感觉,谈论起了濒死体验,而由谈论引发的猜想又导向自身,我还是“我”吗,也许更准确的问题是,我是“我的感知”吗?
前世,转世,“somehow i mean reincarnation is just a poetic expression of well collective memories really is. ”,我们继承下来的不只是这一世的体验,甚至可以追溯到生命体能够记忆那时(细胞记忆?
),这种数十亿年的趋利避害形成了一种天生的“本能”,这种“本能”是超验的,无论时间距离。
很好,你发现,潜意识里、本能里,“你”不仅与“他人”息息相关,“你”就是一个“人”,整个人类群体似乎就是一整个生命体)第三个自己-自由意志(我们真的比牢狱中的囚犯更自由吗?
嘿,清秀的主人公认识到人类大同似乎又回到了学校,倾听着困扰着一个科学家(?
)的哲♂学♂问题:刨去基本的经典物理规则、数十亿年的记忆所灌制的“本能”、文化家庭背景,我们还剩多少选择的自由?
【以下有不熟悉的内容,总结下教授的发言】如果这些物理规则是如此不可违抗,那么我们所谓的历史,所谓的发展不就是必然的结果吗,一切就像规则的叠加 1+1+1 这样运作下去了,一切都是可以被计算的?
经典物理不行的话那么量子力学呢,教授觉得如果我们的“自由”是基于一种完全无序的机制的话,那还不如第一种一眼看到头的未来呢(经典言论“上帝不掷骰子”)。
有没有真正基于“我”当下觉知从而做出选择的不受以前经验也不受经典物理规律影响更不是一种抽风似的毫无逻辑关联做出选择的那种自由?
这位科学家似乎想要证明这种可能性。
)=================================================第四个自己-潜意识与主人格之争不谈那么不自由的自由了,退一步,我们承认有这种主人格可以做出”自由“的选择,但是潜意识仍然在暗处伺机而动。
哪个会占上风呢?
现实中一位公放大喇叭发泄自己对于体制不满的中年男子似乎同样渴求着自由,情绪随着面部的充血也直线上升直至高潮,和性欲相通的本能似乎完全主导了他。
“从负面出发的问责,就只是我们对虚无自愿的顺从罢了。
一旦你承认了那冲动,这种认同是会传染的,它毫无限制得繁殖着这种认同。
如果你认同了某种冲动,那就准备迎接那所有的吧。
”老人似乎永远不会让冲动主导局面,他应该有着严于律己的一生。
黑人说 :“当下的主流反而就是从边缘、从深渊去探索那些触及核心的隐秘,接受自身的脆弱,品尝、感受那种独特,汲取其中的养分,你的主人格和潜意识间的分界模糊了,尝试去达到一种更大的和谐,而借助这种体验从而进一步打开个人和宇宙连接的大门,在此间你感觉到的每分每秒都不再是空虚无意义的了,在此,自我、协调与独一无二从最根源生出。
你就是它,珍珠居住在蚌肉一般,你可以感觉到宇宙仿佛是一个生命,而时间就是它的心跳。
”感觉已经入禅了,自然的高峰体验绝对是无比美妙的,思考分辨是不是主人格什么的都已经太慢了,你只能感知。
)=================================================第五个自己-作为个人所经历的时间对人格的塑造(小时候的我和现在的我根本没有啥共同性嘛~几乎每四年人体的细胞就全部更新了一遍,我和小时候的我还有啥相同?
也许只有 DNA 和对自我的认同保存了下来。
)黑猩猩:我们做的不过是一件又一件重复的事情,甚至是重复“重复”这件事情,因为单调,因为数得清的选择酒吧,无聊故事,“良好的武装是对暴行最好的防御”,无聊到死,你为什么不去死,结果死了两个。
广告歌曲中的歌词“Now i'm free to see the world”第六个自己-梦,you're your own remixer,构建自己的宇宙lucid-Louis,关灯,控制梦境第七个自己-电影holy mom ent第七个自己-感觉一个感觉总比时间快一步的人,一个活了两倍年龄的人第七个自己-礼仪机制发心,我们需要真实的情感,从心底涌发的,你不是一个其他,而是我想要和你交流的你,不是谁都行,只是你。
表演与生活表演是什么?
表演就是生活。
你只能在事件上、或者表情或者什么别的表面上去模仿,梦里的人物将自己想了解想知道想说的按做梦人的暗示说了出来,但这不对,做梦人已经知道了这些,那为什么还需要梦呢?
为什么会做梦呢?
梦又是什么?
这里不需要什么科学的解释,这里的梦更多是自指的,而非身体上的一种机能或冲动,我想弄清这对于我有什么意义,而不是做出什么普适的解释,参与者和观察者-永恒的矛盾测不准I would say that life understand is life lived.这也是一个自指,但这种永恒的矛盾能够得到解释吗,或者至少给出一个自洽的假说也行啊,爆炸头说了一个他的认识:“And as one realizes that one is a dream figure in another person's dream,that is self-awareness.”分明可以感觉到,在这种解释下,宇宙、自我、记忆、梦开始循环起来,谁是第一个造梦者已经不重要了,一切都在循环,而片中的小伙子确实是真实存在的,他就是导演脑中诞生的、真实的虚幻。
梦境会将你自己显示给你as the pattern gets more intricate and subtle,being swept along is no longer enough.而在此时,船长和那个政客就像两个先知是你定义了你自己,就像你感知了你的梦境,时间是怎样作用在你的身上,梦已经对你说完了暂时要讲的,你得给它一个回应了。
梦境就像你置身的音乐,你在其中,你能感知那音乐,但你却又不是那音乐,你是舞者,你随着那音乐起舞,或者你又“看穿”了音乐的动机,随着自身的节奏起舞,但无论如何,你得回应那音乐,而不是伫立在原地,一切虽然不像机器那么精确的反应,但那是氛围的调动,味觉的协调,虽然慢一些,但是,是整个的,不在任何别的地方别的时间,就在此时此刻,氛围,回应。
时间-幻觉-难以醒来的梦-死亡-预言-结局在最后一段,导演把所有要素都推到了一起,导演将自己也塞进了这个梦中,作为全知的观察者,他告诉了他的造物一切的真相,幻觉,他也告诉了了他的观众相对的真相,电影。
wake up, you know you should, it's easy. 小伙子回到了哪里呢,又会被谁捕捉进梦境还是开始了自己的造梦之旅呢?
无从得知,但亲爱的观众们,你们该从梦中清醒了。
导演一开始就把影片的宗旨亮了出来,“重要的不是画笔的多少,而是那些颜色和线条,也不是套话,不是框架,不是系统,就是感受”。
所以,无论有没有看懂这部电影不重要,其中的乱七八糟的理论不重要,重要的还是你自己的生活,你自己的感受,这部电影有触动到你,这就够了。
电影放到三分之二,我睡着了,以致不得不深夜把它从头至尾再看一遍。
这是值得的。
这里头全是人生里讲不完的废话,而且它真的就敢用这样一种貌似无聊的宣教的方式讲了出来。
也许为了老少咸宜,或者就干脆就是出于编织一个诡计的需要,它赋予自己以最绚烂的形式。
但它仍然是一个诡计,对某些人而言,甚至是梦魇。
故事的结构,如同博尔赫斯著名的短篇《环形废墟》。
博尔赫斯写道,一位逃亡的魔法师来到了一座庙宇的环行废墟中,他生存的意义就是做梦,为了在梦中塑造一个到达真实世界的“人”,一个将经历与他一样宿命的的幻影。
唯一知道这塑造出来的人其实是幻影的,是世界上的火。
某天,环行废墟再次遭到火焚。
当魔法师走向大火时,火焰非但没有吞噬他的皮肉,反而抚慰他,于是,“他宽慰地,惭愧地,害怕地知道他也是一个幻影,另一个人梦中的幻影。
” 《半梦半醒的人生》这部电影,说的则是一个稀里糊涂的年轻男子,在没完没了、如套盒般一个包容一个的梦中,与这样那样的人展开关于人生的哲学、生物学、政治学、符号学之类的探讨,间或参杂某囚徒在狱中的凶狠诅咒、某自杀者在街头的自焚、几男子在加油站中所遇怪事,以及一些童年印象的逝影倏忽,如此整整100分钟。
这男子发觉自己无论如何都走不出这个梦魇。
他迫切地想要醒来,可是,每次他都是那个无法控制电灯的开关的人——梦中遭遇的一个人物曾告诉他,要知道自己是不是在梦境中,只要看看是不是能够调整房间里的光源就可以了。
我们这位可怜的梦境穿梭者,根本找不到梦的源头——也就是所谓现实中的那个他,于是只好倾听各色人等在他的梦里面,无穷尽和他谈论人生如梦的大道理。
确实是足够黑色幽默。
这电影耍的是一个机智的阴谋。
如果你还记得《爱在黎明破晓时》和《爱在日落余晖时》,你就会明白这是同一个导演(RICHARD LINKLATER)的惯用路数。
在那被人戏称为“侃大山电影之最”的两部曲中,RICHARD LINKLATER让一对俊男美女在维也纳和巴黎的街道和河岸走来走去,相互诉说彼此对于人性、政治、文学、自我的感悟,用一种略带惆怅和忧伤的方式说尽了青春的梦想和中年的彷徨。
现在,导演自己破了自己的纪录。
他在一部以真人表演为水彩创作素材的动画片里到达了侃大山电影的最高境界,那就是:里头所有的人物都在没完没了地演说,连一个出租汽车司机都可以面对镜头大谈特谈自由的意义。
显然,100分钟的时间里,除了被前所未有的视觉效果震撼,你还必须经历一场脑力激荡。
整个过程中,不要试图抓住每个善辩的人物的话语意义,因为你终究会发现,你根本就不可能对其中涉及的话题进行归纳和总结。
他们似乎说了许多,说得足够深度足够真诚,然而他们又什么都没有说——梦境穿梭者在每一场深奥的言说中离开,发觉自己还是陷在另一场梦中;用脑过度的观众最后只能记住那个在梦里欲罢不能的倒霉蛋。
《半梦半醒的人生》以轻微的悲观主义色彩,展现了关于人之解释、人生之解释的无穷尽性。
太多的意义被赋予到一场梦境的追溯中,最后却用以证明梦境的虚幻。
看这样的电影是一个翻开心胸享受思维快乐的过程,但愿它不会为你带来痛苦。
PS.《爱在日落余晖时》的悬案在《半梦半醒的人生》中终于得到了解答。
Jesse和Céline究竟上了床没有?
上了,而且在床上还继续着他们机智的讨论。
对于《爱在日落余晖时》的影迷来说,这是一个重大的消息,呵呵。
学点哲学再看吧,对哲学一无所知的就晕乎吧。
以下对片段的小结有剧透嫌疑,但任何剧透都不影响任何人看这部电影,如片头对语言的诠释,每个人对“爱”都有不同的理解,观众永远无法明白导演真正在说什么,想说什么,而每个观众看到的想到的也都不同。
这部电影的目的,也许只是提醒你,多做些思考。
存在主义分析哲学进化政治与个体轮回与遗传自由意志只是一种可能性突破束缚才能得到自由人类的目的在于寻找交流世界的历史和进化不是进步的经历,而是无休止的无用功没有故事的小说武装自己梦电影...梦境时间。。。
分两次看完,不是很懂为啥要把这一堆杂碎串在一起。
失败的装逼作,完全没必要做成动画,退一步讲,就算非要做成动画,也不要做这么垃圾好么,眼都晃花了。
What the fuck are you talking about?!
喜欢写散文请去写散文。Literally看不下去的一部片子。
有点牛,太过哲学向了,明白了很多道理却依旧过不好这一生,更不要提还有那么多我不明白的道理呢。
稀里糊涂的看了N多人生观点和公开课.....
风格一如既往,有些太过“哲学”,但剧本还是有点意思的,只是貌似我不大喜欢一群不断晃来晃去的卡通人表情僵硬地对我大谈特谈哲学与人生,包括晃来晃去的Q版伊桑霍克和朱迪德佩…
扯淡的路上,林克莱特走得很远
流动场景下摇曳梦幻的镜头,以及特殊的动画合成技术,都足以让其成为影史举足轻重的一部作品。探究人类正常进化受到阻挠,梦想与灵魂关系的大胆假设,很多观点都是新颖且富有哲理的颠覆。这不像是部美国电影,如同众生难辨梦里梦外。
1. 第一次看还停留在对着里面一段段能够引起我共鸣的对话或者说讲话者结论的沉迷中,但是对本片的结构安排我可能还需要看几次。2. 导演敢想敢做。
我的大腦難以消化大段的台詞,場景過於跳躍,感覺自己完全在夢遊,頭很暈。印象最深的是「電影就是現實的再生,是基於人和事而非劇本」這一小段,看導演過去的電影確實有感受到這點,而他對於電影的了解也相當透徹
可恶了,画面风格及其牛逼,内容却完全是由一段段絮絮叨叨长篇大论的形而上说教组成...看了半个小时就败掉了,两次才看完...其实感觉这种文学性的东西完全就不该拍成电影,竟然还配上这么噱头的画面,完全叫人没法把注意力集中到作为主体的台词上啊!!!
做实拍转动画这么恶心的效果这他妈不是扯淡吗 哦这就是一部纯“扯淡”的电影。。惊喜的是伊桑和朱莉出现的两分钟是Before sunset的小番外 聊的还是Before sunrise里轮回的话题 失望的是他俩就出现了两分钟。。。。。。。。。。。。
画面实在无法看下去!
半梦半醒的观影。
竟能听懂全部人所说的,并且还有机会嘲笑其中至少三分之一.这些并非极深的哲理,使用了演讲的方式来料理,虽然有时也跟不上他们的节奏,但其中深意却已为我们所理解:就是观念而已.关于自由意志、灵魂转生、量子理论、社会结构和进化论等的观点无触动,倒是自焚的人、开船车的人和监狱诅咒最得我心
这种将真人演的改为动画的风格挺不错~
丧心病狂。我朋友圈都比这好看。
说教意味太重,而且讲得太深...虽然用了真人动画化的小巧思,可遮不住整部影片的沉闷...BTW,辛苦翻译的大神们了
林克莱特的盗梦空间,2001年的片子放到现在也是先驱。
按车轨边青年的说法,lucid dream大概不算梦?但是像我现在,就已经很少做那些没法控制,完全沉溺的梦了。通常梦开始没多久就会被意识到是在做梦,直接导演剧情,甚至都不用学主人公找个开关来验证。按照弗洛伊德引用Vaschide的说法,大概就是,想睡觉的愿望被其他愿望(比如说观察和享受自己的梦境)取代, wish-fulfilment以另一种方式进行。片里萨满是把lucid dream看作珍惜想象力的一种方式,但应该还有一方面是恐惧吧,恐惧失去控制,被卷入无法左右的梦域和情绪(Melanie Klein也有类似观点)。另外一点,主角穿越各种场景的floating是弗洛伊德的典型梦境之一,除了性行为暗示(erections or emission),还是一种退到童稚状态的,无干扰的愉悦感