猎魔人第二季

都是什么弱智剧情和对应的人物形象？

希里放弃了人物成长的经过拍摄，一上来就苦大愁深面瘫脸，薇歌也不换人，恩瑞斯选角找个年轻人？

那就是说尼弗佳德的宫斗部分也没有。

那这个片子就剩下砍怪和救人？

奈飞的大数据体现出来的美国观众这么低智？

然后原有三人，狼只剩颜值，叶一言难尽，丹德里恩像个迷人的吟游诗人？

这种剧居然还能上8分。

先从选角妆容来说，政治正确这种大扣分项就不说了，得肯定的点是第二季针对演员的妆容设计上来了，ciri的气质一下子就提升了，叶奈法终于看起来舒服了，但是实话演员选角的问题还是没法仅仅通过妆容改变，你政治正确也好好选选角行不行，叶哪怕是好看了，但是气质如同邻家女孩，特也比上一季好看了，但是看着能当叶的阿姨，能不能别因为政治正确就瞎几把乱选啊，选符合气质的好不好。

就更别说丑到极致的大鼻孔黑薇歌，头发扎得前半个脑袋光溜溜的，都快成清后期阴阳头了，塞进白衣服里，这选角加形象设计真是，绝中之绝。

还是随处可见的致命廉价，特别是怪物设计，是得下功夫的，要大量参考古代各个时期的鬼怪画像，剧里的怪物，本身特效有点廉价，cg感很强，加上拉胯的设计，总是有一种网络游戏的味道，比如第五集出现的那个天上飞的玩意，就是狂拽酷炫是够了，但是细节设计很差，导致很违和；不少盔甲服装道具也是，设计感很差，质感差，哪怕你去找英国西班牙意大利那些历史剧组借点自己回来改改也行啊。

剧情不像第一季，导演水平不行还硬是要三条故事性拼命颠三倒四，但是说实话，故事到第二集之后我已经在跳着看了，不知道为何给我一种无聊透顶的感觉。

实在是拉胯，整部剧我就找不到多少能夸一夸的地方，选角选角不行，道具道具不行，剧情剧情不行，连欧美擅长的视觉特效设计也不行。

在中文社区评分进步了，但在我看来较第一季退步明显，下面是我的理由：1. 动作戏不再用心，全季中没有一个值得我反复回味的动作戏（类似于第一季中为杰洛特赢得屠夫盛名的那场戏），最后一集的猎魔人大战恐龙尬的要死让人忍不住快进。

（btw，我唯一看两遍的长镜头是丹德里恩的弹奏，对杰洛特的怨念都唱出来了）。

2. 除丹德里恩外，演员的词几乎都浮在天上，要么就是话里情感好像憋了10年，要么就是些充满哲理的句子，互相教育。

3. 维瑟米尔在原著中是一位慈祥、笃定、有趣、幽默的老头，他是杰洛特的父亲师傅和挚友，学识渊博、冷静从容。

本剧把他塑造为轻易上头，需要杰洛特去教育的糊涂蛋，我真是无语。

4. 小演员Freya的戏都浮在天上，对于我这样的原著和游戏党，逻辑上应该自动带入慈父身份，但实际上对她全然无感，无法带入。

我觉得可能因为她的成长，气质和混血精灵公主的角色偏离了（第一集中的年纪有这种气质）。

不由得感慨，这种长篇巨制，小演员的挑选是风险极大的，因为可能是跨越10年的剧集，小演员长成什么样，长多高，性格演技有什么变化都有不确定。

成功的话，就像Arya之于权游（ Maisie 对Arya的塑造简直了，她的经历的苦难和成长是我最关注的剧情，当然Arya再神奇也拯救不了那既定的结局...）。

而这位小演员在第二季中的表现加深了我的忧虑。

如果不对剧情做大刀阔斧的修改，Ciri在之后的戏份将超过杰洛特，她是整个故事的中心，是上古血脉，是命运之子。

从仙尼德岛政变开始，她要经历的磨难甚至超过了权游中的Arya。

且这些故事都是在和杰洛特分离的时候发生的，是她成长和蜕变的关键历程。

离开了大超的陪伴，小演员Freya还撑得起这部戏吗？

5. 杰洛特几乎被塑造成了圣人，而不是那个穷困的，在和怪物的战斗中经常负伤险胜的，爱吐槽的，有着不合时宜的正义感的真实的猎魔人。

（第一季在这方面做的不错）。

说一说比较喜欢的地方：1. 反派李恩斯的形象更鲜活了，背景似乎也很合理。

叶妮芙在酒馆救丹德里恩的改编很有趣，凸显了她的智慧而不是单纯的武力。

把Ciri的法力丧失移花接木至叶身上也是很巧妙的改编。

2. 威哥塑造的很棒，藏的够深，一副正义凛然，拼尽全力的样子，不是原著党的话，估计被你唬住了。

前面都还行，最后看的我很痛苦，倒不是因为猎魔人被噶了一大半，而是因为希里这么重要的角色一点成长都没有，希里跟着猎魔人那么幸苦的训练，她跟杰洛特说她想对过去冷漠的时候我真以为她成长了，但是最后的表现还是那个被困在过去的软弱要抱抱的公主，外面猎魔人死的死伤的伤最后一起过来呼唤希里，前面杰洛特千呼百唤没啥用就算了，都到这份上了结果她转头对她从来没见过的爹妈来一句我哪也不去我只要你们简直是把一路上跟杰洛特和其他猎魔人陪伴的感情揉一块扔到地上踩两脚还要吐口唾沫，算是编剧强行要用这个机会来让叶奈法表现出转变来救场，叶奈法的转变是表现出来了，那希里的呢？

顺带一提编剧很用心的把希里快乐跳舞和猎魔人被虐杀的画面交替在一块，跟最后一集要表现的“家人”的主题实在是撕裂。

还有维瑟米尔，一个猎魔人死掉他都心疼死了，现在在他面前惨死那么多个我都不知道他要怎么撑过去，然而他还是作为编剧的工具人，内心的情感与挣扎、希望与绝望被简单带过了。

至于亚斯卡尔，他这个吊儿郎当一点忙都帮不上的形象可能已经被编剧用502胶水粘在他身上再拍一百季也甩不掉了。

我真心希望有人能来告诉我我的理解是错的，片面的，不然看了这个剧我得好久心情都不会好了。

第一季看得一头雾水，冲着7.9的高分，一直坚持看下去。

可能第一季的翻译有些问题，第二季翻译正常发挥，剧情也开始吸引人。

第二季中把里面的人物区分清楚，主线展露出来，感觉有两个女主，刚开始以为女巫会黑化，没想到第二季中把女主骗了之后又开始帮助女主，这剧情也是醉了。

这样发展下去，女巫和男主在一起，女主变成他们的女儿。

哈哈哈哈哈 希望第三季赶快更新 总的还是蛮期待

大超把白狼的正义感和温油演出来了 跟男票玩过游戏 游戏里面的椰奶更性感 但剧里性格更贴近个人出身 更立体 个人觉得椰奶并不是想生孩子 她是想把被这个世界所剥夺的选择的权利争取回来 能生不生和不能生还是不一样的混乱的世道原本只应该顾及自己 猎杀怪物徘徊在世人边缘 但是白狼竟然展现了责任和爱 真的好温油！

大超已经苏到改变我的性取向了真的很少对感情线这么迫切尽管叶儿长的差强人意不过氛围感可以的大超温油眼神全程期盼ghs我真的变了

熬夜一次性看完 整体来说令人失望 由于我只玩过游戏和看过狼之噩梦所以单从游戏出发先说说最大的几个槽点1⃣️电视剧最大的问题就是迷之时间线 剧情衔接不连贯 就像赶鸭子上架 一群人赶场子从a到b （第一季就有这种感觉 第二季尤为明显）其一ciri时间线处理：从游戏来看ciri应该是在凯拉莫汉从十几岁的小孩长大成年但第二季却是短短几个月？

其二狂猎登场时间的处理：作为巫师三游戏副标题也是游戏主线，一开始是白狼从城堡中泡澡醒来 然后去找女儿 中途经过各种地方做各种人物 到男爵领 到诺温格瑞到史坦利杰 中间才慢慢介绍狂猎的 。

电视剧过早明显删除压缩了很多剧情其三ciri长者之血：编剧就差没拿大喇叭群发这世界上所有人了，ciri长者之血第一次觉醒时间对不上。

2⃣️巫师三丰富的战斗系统让你能依据怪物属性来调整自己的对抗方式你打大狮鹫的配置和你打地精水鬼是完全不同的。

电视剧里的打怪套路我算是看出来了就硬刚剑油呢？

你就拿纯银打所有怪吗？

你的炼金药就一种吗？

打小怪打大怪打食尸鬼打水鬼都磕一种让你黑眼的药吗？

这是包治百病的万金油吗？

你的法印呢？

看着就捉急。

几个猎魔人就用个昆恩嗑个万金油其他啥也不干就被怪秒了战斗力可真够拉垮的。

3⃣️感情戏犹如过家家 角色关系发展莫名其妙巫师三中最重要的感情戏就是白狼和椰奶还有特莉丝的三角恋以及白狼和ciri的父女情很遗憾的是在电视剧我看不出来白狼是怎么喜欢上椰奶以及特莉丝怎么喜欢上白狼的特别是特莉丝全程划水到晚上想和白狼yp被无情拒绝之后遇到啥问题又跑回娘家诉苦了让人不禁想这角色塑造的太过柔弱没有主见了父女感情也很难看出来 两人之间没什么互动也不是白狼训练她的是somebody else带她完成的这些缺点都是改编电视剧通有的毛病，尤其是世界观以及人物形象都非常丰富的基础上你在自己魔改人物。

属于画蛇添足了。

选角已经被吐槽烂了但每次看都满满违和感。

整部作品太让游戏玩家失望了但作为一个全新电视剧里面的特效和魔幻元素对普通观众来说还是值得一看的

Fuck it. I decided to compile a list of every change between Season 2 and Blood of ElvesHeavy spoilers for the books and Season 2!\---This is not all-encompassing. I'll forget some changes--Heaven knows the writers made enough changes. I'll also preface this by saying: This isn't a commentary on the quality of the season itself. It is simply a collection of the differences between the novel and the show.**Characters*** Voleth Meir is not in the books. Completely new character.* Geralt wouldn't use Ciri as bait in the books. Nor did he.* Ciri is never possessed by a witch.* Yennefer does not lose her magic in the books. * Yennefer never considers sacrificing Ciri for power. Nor does the opportunity ever arise.* Yennefer is not captured by Niilfgard in the books. * Instead, she is blinded following Sodden after taking a fireball to the face from Fringilla. She then spends lots of time in recovery, then--on Dijkstra's orders--tails and saves Dandelion from Rience. * No one ever thinks she's dead in the books either (Geralt worries that she died after Sodden, if I recall, but finds out rather quickly she's still out there after talking to Triss at the Sodden memorial)* Later in the series (Post Time of Contempt/Late Season 3 or early Season 4 by comparison), people suspect Yennefer of being a Nilfgaardian spy. But at no point does anyone suspect her of being a spy following Sodden.* The Stregobor stuff isn't a thing in the books. He's there, but plays no important role.* Vessemir wouldn't try to use Ciri's blood to create more witchers in the books. Nor would he ever allow Ciri to undergo the Trial. Nor would he let Eskel bring a bunch of hookers to Kaer Morhen* In the books, Dandelion is actively working with Djikstra and the Redanian Secret Service. This is removed in the show It is implied that Djikstra is funding Dandelion's sandpiper activities, though Dandelion doesn't seem to be aware of who he is working with. This is speculative on my part though. * Also in the books, Dandelion is not nearly as comedic as he was in Season 2. He is funny, but they seemed to lean into that aspect of him for Season 2. * This is more my interpretation, but in the books, Dandelion is far wittier than he is in the show. He certainly doesn't come across as the type to talk to rats in the book.* Djikstra is not a rambling drunk in the books (although I didn't find that to be a bad change. It was pretty interesting IMO).* I don't believe Istredd even appears in Blood of Elves* Francesa Findabar is *not* with the Scoia'tael in the books. By this, I mean she's not in the field with them, acting as their leader. * She is a member of the Brotherhood of Sorcerers, though she does harbor sympathies for their cause and occasionally meets with Scoia'tel leaders (Filavandrel, as an example). This relationship becomes relevant when she aids Niilfgaard during the Coup at Thanned* Fringilla Vigo does not become de facto leader of Cintra in the books. Instead, she fucks off to Niilfgard* Cahir is not captured by the Brotherhood following Sodden in the books. I don't even recall if he was at Sodden. As far as I recall, he traveled back to Niilfgard following the Fall of Cintra, and was imprisoned for failing to capture Ciri. We don't see him again for another two books after Sodden. * His execution plot-point never happened in the books. * Book Cahir is also not nearly as mustache-twirly-evil-villain as he is in the show. Cahir fans will know what I mean.* Tissaia is hardly a significant character in the books.* Rience is not a magical bounty hunter in the books. He's an almost fanatical follower of Vilgefortz in the books. * Rience is scarred in the show and books, but in the books, it's because Yennefer uses her magic to wound him as he's interrogating Dandelion.* Lydia Van Bredevoort does not develop her scars from sniffing a vial of elder blood in the books. Instead, her scars are a result of magical experimentation on Vilgefortz' orders, and her wounds are hidden with an illusion.* Eskel is not turned into a Leshen and then killed (as far as we know. He's not in the books for long.)* Vilgefortz and Tissaia are not a romantic thing, as far as I could tell. Nor are they really even partners. Vilgefortz is also the genuine champion of Sodden in the books. He does this to gain more authority in the Brotherhood. * Vilgy is also way stronger and smarter in the books then how he is depicted in the show. Also, Vilgy never says his classic line. This is a cardinal sin, imo.* Nenekke is an old and religious lady. She doesn't go around dropping f-bombs in the books.* Emhyr kept the fact that Ciri was his daughter a big secret in the books. Understandable, given his plans for her (**cough** Imperial Incest **cough**)* Jarre in the books is a bit of a geek, who is very clearly awkward around girls, and has a crush on Ciri. But he's also smart, and good-intentioned. The show reduces him to a dick joke.**Plot Points*** Except for Ciri's training, there is not a single fight at Kaer Morhen. Never. There is no Leshen, nor is there the centipede thing with the claws. There is no possession. * There are only four witchers at Kaer Morhen (Vessemir, Eskel, Lambert, and Coen) * At Kaer Morhen, Ciri trains and exercises. Eventually, Triss arrives (on Geralt's request) and instructs Ciri on the basics of magic, as well as the Elder language.* The plot point with Ciri's blood being able to make more witchers is not in the books. * Vesemir never collects her blood either. The thought of making more witchers is only ever entertained in the context of Ciri being raised as a girl vs. being raised as a witcher. But the mutagenic process itself/Trial of Grasses is never brought up.* In the book, Triss travels with Ciri and Geralt to the Temple. In the show, she doesn't. We don't see her get sick. * On the path to the Temple is when they run into Yarpen Zigrin again. This doesn't happen in the show. As a result, Ciri doesn't visit Shaerrawedd, and there is no fight with the Scoia'tael.* There is no fight at Melitele's Temple in the books. Never.* Yennefer does not travel to the Temple to kidnap Ciri and sacrifice her in the books. * In the books, Ciri and Yennefer stay at the temple for a while. Ciri learns more magic. * Yennefer is invited to the temple by Geralt after Geralt has already left. See the 'Dear Friend,' bullet point further down. * There is no reunion between Geralt and Yennefer in Blood of Elves. They reunite outside Gors Velen in the next book.* In the books, Rience does not find Ciri at the Temple. Instead, Geralt leaves Ciri in Nenekke's care to find Rience at Oxenfurt. * There is no Shani in the show. >:( * Phillipa does not help Geralt find Rience, nor does she help Rience escape: as she does in the books. * In fact, Rience doesn't meet Ciri till the Time of Contempt, which is the next book following Blood of Elves.* Dandelion doesn't sing at a tavern in Oxenfurt. He sings at Bleobheris, a sacred tree. * His Sandpiper plot is not a thing in the books. * Dandelion is not arrested in the books.* The elf and Cintra plot is not in the books. * There is a non-human uprising in the North in the books, led by the Scoia'tael, but they are not given Cintra as a place of refuge by the Niilfgardians. Instead, Niilfgard is suspected of funding and arming them behind the scenes to stoke instability in the North.* Francesca never gets pregnant. Nor does Emhyr commit infanticide against an elven baby in the books. * The notion that a pure-blooded elf hasn't been born in decades is also a Netflix invention. Elves have a much smaller window of time to get pregnant, but it still happens in the books. Avallach and Geralt talk about this in Tower of Swallow.* The magical politics is a thing in the books, but is very different from the magical politics in the show. Stregobor does not interrogate or harm Yennefer, and neither do Tissaia/Vilgy use that as an excuse to seize Council seats. * Instead, the magical politics in the book are concerned with the growing distrust between the Kings and their magical advisors * The meeting of the Kings at the end of Season 2 is the meeting of the Kings in BoE that puts the Mages on edge, and is used to justify the Conclave in Time of Contempt. However, Tissaia is at the King's meeting in the show, which is not the case in the book. No mages were invited to the meeting in the books.* When the Kings of the North meet, they do conclude it best to kill Ciri--so as to prevent her falling into Emhyr's hands (they don't want him to have a legitimate claim to the Cintran throne). However, the show cut the King's talk of war with Niilfgaard. * In the books, they believe a quick strike across the Yaruga could recapture Cintra, and deal a blow to the South. This conversation paves the way for the Second Great War, but does not happen in the show. * The show also leaves out the politics regarding Cintra's throne. Cordhingrer is visited by Geralt in the books, and they develop a plot to--essentially-- smear Calanthe's name and ruin her claim to the Cintrant throne, thus making Ciri's claim to the throne illegitimate. Thus, protecting her from the kings who want her dead for her political power.* Again, the Voleth Meir plot is not in the books at all. Instead, Blood of Elves focuses on Ciri's training and planting the seeds for future conflicts. * I.e. the Second Great War, the Coup of Thanned, Character's motivations to capture Ciri, etc.* The Monoliths are not a thing in the books.* The 'Dear Friend,' bit is in reference to letters exchanged by Yennefer and Geralt while Geralt is in Oxenfurt hunting for Rience. Geralt asks Yennefer to travel to the temple to train Ciri. Again, Geralt and Yen don't actually meet though.* In the books, Niilfgardians are depicted as something more akin to the Romans or English (Highly centralized government with progressive and aristocratic traditions and legal codes). In the books, they are not religious zealots. Though they are also not necessarily 'good' either.* Yennefer and Cahir never have a team-up in the books.* Tissaia does not recommend that Ciri be captured, nor does she suggest that anyone protecting her be captured as well. In fact, Tissaia's role in the show is dramatically overblown.* Ciri is not with Geralt when he meets Nivellen.* Istredd does not meet with Cordringer and Fenn in the books. Geralt does meet them to find information about Rience and Ciri.It's not an exaggeration to say that the *majority* of this season is different from the books. And not just sort of different, but drastically different. Hell, the last four or five episodes are fictitious (relative to the book canon (yes I know it's all fiction, please stop reminding me)) in nearly every way. At this point, I'm not certain where the story will go. For example, how will the Coup play out on Thanedd if Ciri won't be able to attend it? And if Ciri isn't at Aretuza for the Coup, then how will she be warped to the desert? And if she isn't separated from Geralt and Yennefer, then how will she meet up with the Rats?Obviously, they can still work these plots in, or at least, work in the *effects* of these plots, but the story will take a drastically different turn than the one the book tells.Note that this isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, so long as it's done well. But there has to come a point when the adaptation is so drastically different from the source material, that I start to wonder whether it's truly an adaptation, or if it's a reimagining.

剧情很有意思，主角人物演技很好，尤其是男主，换别人也演不出杰洛特的味道，个人感觉没有有些人说的剧情这么离谱，猎魔人的剧情安排也十分合理，就是感觉第一季时间线安排很美国风格（个人感觉也有些美剧是这样拍的），中国人会看不习惯，这也是导致有些人对这部剧评分低的原因，还有对于一些游戏党玩过游戏后，对里面的人和剧情已经有自己的看法了所以当选角不满意时，也可能对这部剧打低分（个人认为主演选角都不错），对于原著党来说，这部剧想贴近原著，又想和原著有区别，所以会穿插一些别的怪物，之类的剧情，但是这些剧情编剧在采访中提到，主要来源东欧的神话故事里（个人认为穿插的没问题），可能没有自己读小说的那种情怀，所以也会有人给它打低分。

总得来说，电视剧可能有自己的想法，也有自己的表达方式，猎魔人绝对是区别于权利的游戏的一部神作（目前认为），但是猎魔人电视剧是肯定不能完全满足游戏党和原著党的情怀的，毕竟人家电视剧明明白白的说了改编于小说，而且游戏呢，它自己也有自己的运行方式，所以电视剧也是会和它们不同。

这不妨碍猎魔人这部剧好看（以上纯纯个人观点，我真的觉得它很好看）以下个人第一季剧情梳理，希望对各位有帮助

第二季的情节没有第一季凌乱，索登战役结束，叶妮芙失踪，杰洛特以为她已战死沙场，带着希瑞回到凯尔莫罕，途中杀死了吸血妖鸟，解除了纳威特的诅咒，猎魔人艾斯卡尔被树林矮妖感染操纵，差点杀死维瑟米尔，最终被杰洛特杀死，杰洛特发现矮妖与巨石碑有关；失去法力的叶妮芙被芙琳吉拉俘虏，在途中她们又被法兰杰茜卡率领的精灵抓住，三人又分别被不死之母蛊惑；被芙琳吉拉放走的叶妮芙救了要被处死的卡西尔一起逃亡，各方势力都想得到希瑞；希瑞在凯尔莫罕苦练技艺，特莉丝和维瑟米尔一起发现她的上古精灵血脉的作用，火术士里恩斯出场了；卡西尔回到尼弗迦德阵营，叶妮芙遇到吟游诗人亚斯克尔再次逃亡，在南尼克的神庙遇到了杰洛特和希瑞；法兰杰茜卡出生的小精灵被杀死，率领精灵报复人类，用法术杀死了众多人类婴儿；芙琳吉拉用法术杀死了反对她的尼弗迦德军官，迫使卡西尔结盟；被不死之母附身的希瑞，并从巨石碑引来了怪兽，重创猎魔人，关键时刻杰洛特稳住局势，抚平众人心绪，使得以痛苦和仇恨为食的不死之母法力减弱，叶妮芙想用牺牲自己方式让不死之母附身，从而解救希瑞，最终希瑞战胜了不死之母。

最后一集的最后时分，恩希尔皇帝出场，露出了真容，书第七部的悬念在剧第二季就揭开了。

总的来说，第二季的情节基本算是原创的了，我的原著算是白看了，那种感觉既失落又好奇，原创情节在逻辑、节奏和衔接方面并未超越原著，令人失望，于是失落慢慢地全面碾压了好奇，这剧在豆瓣上能得这么高的分，可能一大半是超人巨星光芒的功劳。